Notes from the Interactive Marketing Summit

Lesson one: blog about an event straight afterwards, otherwise it’ll take ages! Which is my backhanded way of saying sorry for the delay in giving this summary of Brightstar ‘s first ever Interactive Marketing Summit in Auckland last week.

For blow-by-blow analysis, see the post Michael Brandon from Searchmasters liveblogged during the conference. At least, as long as his laptop battery lasted! See our interview with Michael .

UPDATED 16 July 2008: Throng ‘s Regan Cunliffe has also posted a feisty response to some of the subjects covered at the summit . Look out for an upcoming Jump In interview with Regan.

I’ll do this backwards, starting with the overall themes, and then diving into the individual insights from each speaker.

Themes

  • Thinking in your customers’ shoes is really important on two levels, SEO – choosing the key words your customers would use to find you, and in terms of usability – what overall experience are your customers having through your website?
  • Return On Investment and branding are both really important, and both misunderstood. Some like Tom Osborne from APN Digital and Paul Webster from Google decried interactive advertising’s seemingly sole focus on direct response, saying there’s a lot of evidence to show online is a powerful branding tool, too. Meanwhile, Jon Ostler from First Rate said that can wait, we need to switch on to the return on investment opportunities first – online advertising is being underused. Branding, he says, comes from a well-designed website that provides a good experience. Good point.
  • Going forward from that, there was a general focus on getting marketers into an ROI mindset, rather than just operating out of habit (TVC’s anyone?)
  • Marketers were encouraged to embrace both "hard" skills such as data analytics, and "soft" skills like psychology and ethnography. They’re both important – and my key takeaway is that "Conversation is a form of ROI ". You can drill deep into the numbers, and you can simply listen to what your customers are saying to you.
  • I heard the word "should" a lot during this summit, and reflected just how hard it is to be a marketer today. You’re being pressed to be more accountable by your boards and CEOs, as well as your customer. This means there’s a really strong need to know a little about a lot, and to form solid partnerships with trusted advisors in specific areas. An example – iJump is focused on social media, which we define as blogging, podcasting, online video and social networking. We know about areas like SEO (Search Engine Optimisation), but we wouldn’t take on a full SEO campaign ourselves.
  • Lastly, there were a lot of "believers" in the power of interactive marketing. A key issue was getting buy-in from top management. Marketers have to do an internal sales job. This summit gave them a lot of stats but more importantly a lot of stories to sell new ideas into their organisations. This message came through strongly in two very different presentations from Tim Norton of PlanHQ (see our interview with him ) – an entrepreneur by any definition – and Scott Giles of Air New Zealand’s Grabaseat programme , an intrapreneur in a very large organisation. Although Scott and Tim have very different personalities, the energy these guys had was infectious, and I hope many attendees picked up some ideas to put into practice in their organisation.

Overall, marketers’ jobs are both harder and easier .

Harder , because there are more formulae to learn, more numbers to measure, and more information to stay on top of.

Easier , because once you master the new systems and mindsets, you’re able to absorb new information faster and more effectively.

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Okay, here are some specific notes from each speaker. If I’d had my wits about me I would’ve taken a picture of each speaker, but you’ll just have to imagine what they look like πŸ™‚

Bernard Hickey, managing editor, interest.co.nz

  • Google is the internet deity : all-seeing, all-knowing, all good. (We hope so, anyway!)
  • The publishing model is changing. Consumers don’t just want to read the news, they want to interact with it.
  • Broadband – particularly when it’s delivered via WiFi – is weaning us off TV. Everyone has their own online channel now.
  • The meaning of "local" has changed. It used to mean a physical neighbourhood; now it means my circle of friends, whether they’re in the same city or across the world.
  • Time spent on site should be a consideration when booking online advertising.

Paul Webster, Senior Sales Manager, Google NZ

  • Paul covered a great deal of stuff. These are only the highlights.
  • Paid and organic search can be used together to boost response and also brand awareness, intention to buy, and brand advocacy
  • 4 basic paid search strategies: defend/maintain market share, win new market share, expand into new markets, and testing keyword combinations to find the most effective.
  • Great example of online and offline working together: this Pontiac ad with the call to action "Google Pontiac". (Which means 2 things: 1- Google is okay that they’re a verb now, and 2- Pontiac is very confident in their brand and their SEO.
  • Different keywords will attract customers at different parts of the sales process. Generic keywords (eg shoes, airlines) will get people at the early, information-gathering stage. Brand-specific keywords (eg Zappos, Air New Zealand) will get you more qualified traffic. Both are important.
  • You can choose specific times of day to run your search advertising. Lunch time is the new prime time.
  • Trademark owners can register their brand names for free with Google to avoid brand hijack. Google UK has recently stopped doing this, but Paul didn’t know much about why or what the likely results would be.
  • Google has a huge learning centre online for advertisers. I think it starts here . Or, as Paul recommended, just Google "Google learning centre".
  • Skill sets needed for search advertising success: good writing, creativity, understanding of business objectives.

Thomas Scovell , Senior Product Manager and Account Manager, Shift

  • Thomas gave a brilliant presentation that drew on his academic background in philosophy and psychology
  • In a nutshell: marketing as we know it is a construct of the last century or so. Markets, on the other hand, have been around for thousands of years.
  • Interactive is not the same as online/digital. Truly interactive is "letting customers into the heart of your business"
  • Apparently, more people attend the Sunday morning farmers market in Wellington than attend church.
  • In markets (as opposed to marketing) the sale was merely the exclamation mark at the end of the sentence. The rest was conversation and relationship.
  • Markets 2.0 isn’t about consumers completely bypassing corporates. But it is changing.
  • "Listen. Measure. Respond."
  • "Why" is more important than "how".
  • At the farmer’s market, the farmers let you taste the fruit. How can your customers "taste your fruit"?
  • Where they get Markets 2.0 quickly = developing countries. They are closer to the original model of markets.

Yours truly – Simon Young

  • In a nutshell … our consumers are now our competitors in terms of developing brands and delivering messages. I call it Generation C . More information here , here and here .

Jon Ostler, managing director, First Rate

  • There are so many things you can measure online, but what metrics are really important?
  • Some possibles: conversion rate (online conversions only? or somehow measure offline conversions?)… time spent on site … repeat visits … specific pages viewed (eg contact) … registration/paid subscription … purchases … profit … life time value.

Jacqui Jones , Marketing Manager, NetConcepts

  • Some great examples of the need to proactively manage your online reputation
  • Some KPIs to measure: search result pages … inbound links … pagerank score … hotness of topic (of sites linking to us) … there’s a great service called Touchgraph which maps link relationships.

Tom Osborne, Commercial Director, APN Digital Media

  • Tom’s biggest bugbear is the lack of acceptance of the ability of online to deliver branding.
  • Excuses for not going online: I don’t sell online, my audience aren’t online, I don’t trust online. It’s all bollocks.
  • KFC have advertised on NZherald.co.nz without any click-through call to action. Instead, they’re placing display ads on at particular times of day to make people think of KFC and encourage them to pick some up. Yum!
  • When Tom was at Yahoo! before joining APN, they did some research with AUT university and found that 83% of people researched purchases online, and 60% purchased online.
  • The same study found that 62% of people rate the internet more highly trusted than mainstream media for product recommendations. Interesting!

Tim Norton, founder, PlanHQ.com

(see our interview with Tim here )

  • Tim shared his lessons learnt in launching an online product with virtually no marketing budget.
  • Validate the idea first. PlanHQ began life as an idea and a series of screenshots. Those screenshots gathered 300 email addresses, and the team knew they were onto something, at minimal expense.
  • Go Beta – shrink your grand vision into something that can be built in a few weeks. Make rapid changes. Get it right incrementally.
  • Identify the key phrases you want to be top of. PlanHQ couldn’t compete on "business plan software", but they did do well on "online business plan".
  • Write 3-6 key articles on your topic, and drive traffic towards those articles.

Scott Giles, Online Performance Specialist, Air New Zealand

  • Grabaseat has been a great source of innovation and experimentation within Air New Zealand.
  • It was the brainchild of the CEO, Rob Fife. The aim was to create the habit of customers coming back to the Grabaseat website.
  • It’s worked. Some people even have Grabaseat as their homepage, while others print out the day’s specials and put them on the staff noticeboard.
  • Staff are made into Grabaseat ambassadors.
  • Work with partners. Air New Zealand partnered with TVNZ, which you might expect from a corporate, but they also partnered with viral singing sensation Wing , producing her first ever music video.
  • Of most interest was how the Grabaseat team are almost ringfenced off from the rest of Air NZ, acting as a startup within a large corporate.

Mauricio Freitas , Publisher, Geekzone

(See our interview with Mauricio here )

  • Mauricio took us through an innovative campaign for Microsoft, where Geekzone bloggers blogged about a new Microsoft product – without being vetted by Microsoft, and without any restrictions on what they said.
  • It was courageous, but Microsoft were more willing than their ad agency to go ahead and embrace the unknown.
  • Campaign target was exceeded within the first month, and the blogs are still sending an increasing amount of traffic to Microsoft’s product page.
  • All in all, a win-win-win-win solution. Geekzone gets paid, bloggers get links back to their own blogs, Microsoft gets links to its new product, readers get independent editorial.

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In between sessions, we were also treated to some fantastic viral videos. Here they are:

10 thoughts on “Notes from the Interactive Marketing Summit

  • Lonnie

    Great synopsis–makes me wish I were there. Conversation as a way to ensure ROI is good common sense and a way back to basics for those of us who get caught up in the jargon of our profession….

    Looking forward to more…

    Reply
  • Lonnie

    Great synopsis–makes me wish I were there. Conversation as a way to ensure ROI is good common sense and a way back to basics for those of us who get caught up in the jargon of our profession….

    Looking forward to more…

    Reply
  • Simon

    Thanks Lonnie, great to hear your comments. Would have been great to see you there! Although that would have been a fairly long way to travel!

    Reply
  • Simon

    Thanks Lonnie, great to hear your comments. Would have been great to see you there! Although that would have been a fairly long way to travel!

    Reply
  • Amelia

    Blog about an event straight afterwards – I totally agree.

    The notes that I took does not make as much sense, as it did 8 to 9 days ago.

    Your summary has definitely helped me make sense of some of it. So thank you πŸ™‚

    Looking forward to your next post πŸ™‚

    Reply
  • Amelia

    Blog about an event straight afterwards – I totally agree.

    The notes that I took does not make as much sense, as it did 8 to 9 days ago.

    Your summary has definitely helped me make sense of some of it. So thank you πŸ™‚

    Looking forward to your next post πŸ™‚

    Reply
  • Simon

    Thanks Amelia, glad to know the notes were helpful. That’s one of the beauties of social media – it can extend the value and life of an event.

    Reply
  • Simon

    Thanks Amelia, glad to know the notes were helpful. That’s one of the beauties of social media – it can extend the value and life of an event.

    Reply
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